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December 21, 2017

Linking material 2

Filed under: clarification of demonstration — Rob @ 8:56 pm
  1. I have to have all the elements back in place after a series of moves to go back to the second level from the third. Only joinings could be rearranged in that the order of separation could be altered (up or down at the joining)
  2.  To get back to 3-space I need to move from z-joinings to normal crossings. So these have to be made up of 1+, 1-, 2+,2-,3+,3- but they don’t have to be in the same arrangement as they were formed. Then it is possible we could end up with the unknotted loop.

Linking material 1

Filed under: clarification of demonstration,knots — Rob @ 8:33 pm
  1.  I can duplicate a point in the plane.
  2.  If I have a plane of locations, I can’t move a location to another place.
  3.  Consider a plane of locations of locations co-existing with the plane of locations
  4.  Then I can move one copy of the location into the second plane where it joins with the location that is already there. (We can keep the rest of the locations still).
  5.  Then each point of the plane has a location and the location of the location of it’s duplicated point
  6.  Suppose we have a set of connected locations which form a loop in 3-space. We can move from the plane to 3-space.
  7.  Then we can imagine transforming to the second level and twisting the loop so that the loop joins itself in the centre. We have the location from the still locations in 3-space and the two moving locations joining at the centre.

December 16, 2017

The third level of location

It seems a feature of this geometry is that we can have two different locations at one location of locations.

So if a circle is moved to ‘intersect’ itself, I can separate the ‘intersection’ as there are two different locations at this ‘intersection’.

If these two locations are labelled as the ‘intersection we can move these two labels out along the path of the circle and bring

two locations together which are not the intersection.


But this has to separate into a different space than would the two locations A and B separate into a space of locations of locations.

Let the distance between A and B be zero and some distance at a third level. A and B then move in a space of locations of locations of locations.

Then D(1) is a joining of C and D. A virtual joining.

Since we are at the third level we move the diagram to the circle again by separating C and D at D(1) like A and B are separated at Z(1)


September 27, 2017

Clarifying letter to Lou

June 25, 2017

Filed under: clarification of demonstration — Rob @ 6:16 pm
1.In the first diagram I am showing how the crossings in a knot diagram could be put into l*l space. But seeing this is complex, I thought I could reduce the complexity.
2.In the second diagram, I’m showing that we can start instead with a self-intersecting loop with one location at the center in l*l space and then add a location, by moving one from somewhere close to the intersection and bringing it into joining there with the location that is already there.. This could be done with other such diagrams as shown.
3.In the third diagram I am showing  what I am using as an example with the joining’s labelled 1,2,3.
4.In diagram four I am showing the decomposition of this diagram, moving the locations of locations. 1-,2-,3- can be the locations that come from the outside and the +’s can come from the diagrams.
We have a condition of uncertainty with 1+,1-,2+,2-,3+,3-. We can assign the two parts of 1 to the two strands which go through 1, but the way it is created we can say that it is uncertain which part belongs to which strand. The same can be said of the other labels 2 and 3. We separate the joining pieces bringing into joining parts which do not join in the original diagram, by choosing one specific separation from the two available for each joining at random.
5.The fifth diagram shows that the final decomposition can be reformed in two more possible ways.
6.In the sixth diagram I show that the final decomposition can be put together in a way that leads to a new “shape”.
In the case shown the diagram is folded up in a different way. There maybe other self-transformations leading to new shapes which may be possible with more complex diagrams.

June 10, 2017

Further on

Filed under: clarification of demonstration — Rob @ 3:31 pm

1. Instead of changing to l*l space before creating the joining, we can also change to it as we flatten the crossings. There can be a two to two map from two locations in 3 space to two locations together at an l*l plane. Also we can consider an entire diagram. Diagrams 4 and 5. I use the double crossing loop as an example.
2.This creates a new joining type Z(n) n=1,2,3..
3.The advantage of doing this is that now we can say that we are at the level l*l but we can take advantage of the way movements of points around the double self-intersecting loop are defined in l. Since points and locations are both zero dimensional.
We can have a type of movement of locations 1+ and 1- around the loop while the locations 2+ and 2- at Z(2) stay fixed. Locations move through locations.
4. In particular I can separate Z(1) into 1+, 1- and D(1) while keeping Z(2) as is. Diagram 6.
5. 1+ and 1- can then move through Z(2).


Filed under: clarification of demonstration — Rob @ 3:30 pm

1. Start with a crossing in regular 3 space. Diagram 1.
2. By “freezing” the crossing in regular space (the dotted lines) we can then move the crossing to l*l (location of location) space. The locations still cross, one over the other. Diagram 2.
3. We can move the two strands of the crossing to intersect at the “joining” D. Here at the vertex at the location of the locations, we have the two locations. We know which location is associated with which strand of the crossing. Diagram 3. 1+ and 1- represent two parts of the original crossing.

May 27, 2017

Page 1

Filed under: clarification of demonstration — Rob @ 1:18 pm

If we “freeze” the knot in usual space then we can move it in l*l space.

Page 2

Filed under: clarification of demonstration — Rob @ 1:17 pm

There are new crossing types. I can have two other deeper types of diagrams.

Page 3

Filed under: clarification of demonstration — Rob @ 1:14 pm

This is the creation of Z joining. If we have a crossing in l and a crossing in l*l then we can have a Z joining. If we don’t have a crossing in l but do have one in l*l we have a Q joining.

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