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July 14, 2025

The Collatz conjecture

Filed under: the collatz conjecture — Rob burchett @ 2:55 pm

Mathematical concept removal, subsequent sharing and separation

Introduction:

The notion of a point, that which has no parts or no extent, is basic in math. The ancient Greeks thought about points, but what if they were not entirely correct?

They asked, what if two points were placed next to each other? They thought that this would be one point and stopped there.-Aristotle : Physics- “neither can two points be contiguous with one another”

But what if something like the contiguousness of two points could be possible. Since something of no extent combined with something of no extent would still have no extent- but there could be two items of no extent there! The two objects could be hidden as one! The two items of no extent would have to be different in some way so that they would not combine to be one point.

One can regard the overlapping shadow diagrams below:

Consider a teacup placed on a table with two lights from above. One from the left and one from the right. See below:

Now as seen in the overlap, two different shadows can take up the space of one location, we can regard these as e and p. e is another possible entity of no extent, p is a point. If I take away one light, one shadow still remains. The table can be like an underlying space.

If e and p are sharing position, they do not combine because they are different. It must be that they are not next to each other, as Aristotle thought but overlap. An item of no extent put with a different item of no extent would still have no extent but there would be two items there.

The two items would be in the same position, since they are two different items, both of no extent.

Think of a mathematical point not as a single solid object but as a Russian Nesting Doll. Even when the dolls are tucked inside one another and appear to occupy a single spot, their individual identities remain perfectly intact and shared. My new language allows us to unfold these nested layers, revealing the hidden structures and connections that standard math accidentally flattens out. This analogy was developed in collaboration with an AI assistant.

Start with a plane of places and a horizontal line of points labelled 1,2,3.. So that we have a unit length.

We wish to show that there is a next level to this plane and set of numbers on a line.

Let’s build the next level.

I can place a point on another point, but let’s not have then coincide but let the new point be a point where points could be. Rather than just a plain point (1st level). This would be a second level, possible since the new point and the origins point carry the same basic notion, that of a place of no extent, so that the upper concept becomes a place of places of no extent-containing the lower places of no extent. It fits exactly with the lower concept. These concepts are co-existing. This is concept building.

We must have more than one place at this place of lower places so that one lower place may be fixed to keep contact with the first level and the other places would be mobile in the new dimension as I can have multiple places of lower places of no extent.

Then a new number dimension is co-created. Number the lower places (1(1) and (1(2) or (2(1)-for two lower places. These are two new higher numbers where the number of lower numbers is 2 and not 1.

We can think of jigsaw puzzle of a landscape being taken apart.

This is how it would be for the concept of a point and a number. In general then we can regard any mathematical concept as capable of this sharing. Coincider a concept A and related concept B.(Shown as circles in the diagrams below).

We can have an axiom of concept sharing if I introduce the notation ((). This is showing that the combined concepts are not in coincidence. Like (<—() The left bracket is moved away showing the revealed concepts. The extra structure is shown as a revelation of one labeled concept away from the combination which does not coincide as the concepts are different in some way to be revealed, it is an expanded notation and makes a sentence. So for example (A(B) means A is not in coincidence with B, but sharing the same space.

So the axiom is expressed as (A’[(A(B)] or for a specific concept (A’(1)[(A(1)(B(1)}. A(1) is a specific, fixed instance of a concept. B(1) is another instance of the concept yet different in some way. In order for the two not to be in coincidence another level of the concept is opened up, overlying but co-existing, so that A(1) and B(1) can be in the same lower space, able to separate.[,] is showing containment. The spaces are co-existing so that they can be in the new space to begin with. This creates a  concept space with the next level concept denoted A’(1). Otherwise there is no “room” and A(1) and B(1) just coincide.

To have (A(B) I have to take out A. A(1) can only be taken out if there is an overlying concept A’ which copies the notion of the original concept A but exists at a higher level such that A’ is the concept of the concept A taken to a new expanded level. Such as for points a “ new place of lower places B”. This creates a leveled concept space …(A’’[(A[’(A(B)]] with A’’ even higher than A’. All these A’, A’’, … coexist with A as the (() sentence shows.

The concept B can move in the expanded concept level as B can overlap with A’ since A’ is the expanded notion of A and B is shared with A. Making the logic of A’ and B consistent as B must be different from A, being able to move in A’  while A is fixed.

The next level concept carries the same basic notion of the original concept, so that it can overlap and connect with the original concept; this is how a concept can build upon itself. Yet it is overlying and co-exists with the original concept.

Then if I have another instance of this concept say A(2) I can have (A’(2)[(A(2)(B(2))] 

Then (A’(1)[(A(1)(B(1))] and (A’(2)[(A(2)B(2))] allows (A’(1)[(A(1))] and (A’(2)[(A(2)B(1)(B(2))].

This is the movement of B(1) making B(1) different from A(1) as A(1) is fixed. Then the axiom is self-consistent as A(1) is different from B(1) as required.

I have to take out A to have (A(B) so this necessitates A’ Which then A and B are defined to exist in. A’ has to have the same notion as A and B, but extended.

B has to travel in A’ so that A’ has to be a new dimension of concept A, an extension of concept A. The only way it can be extended is to have another level of concept A a concept of concept. So for example in points a place of places or in numbers a number of numbers.

If we take out a place, we have a place of lower places, where more than one place can be. If we take out a number we have a number of lower numbers, a number which indicates how many numbers there are present.

These can number the places in the place of lower places.

We can have more than one number or place because we are opening up another dimension of the concept. The concept can now move away from its singularity.

There has to be more than one in order to move the other type of concept along the new dimension. Then the new concept dimension has to copy the notion of the original concept but be at its next level higher, so that the original concept doesn’t change when moved along the new concept dimension.

So A’ is an overlying , coexisting space. A new level of concept A.

In standard math, we are taught that a “point” is the only thing that can exist at a specific co-ordinate. But think about the pixels on your screen. A single pixel isn’t just one “thing”-it is actually a shared space where Red, Green and Blue exist together.

When these colors share the pixel, they create a new result (like white light), but they don’t lose their individual identities. They are nested within that single coordinate. My notation (A’[(A(B)] works the same way:

The pixel is the higher concept level (A’). The Red is the fixed anchor(A) and the Blue is the second entity(B) that shares that space

The magic hapens in the separation. In a standard co-ordinate system, if you move the “point” the whole pixel moves. But in this new language we can “unfold” the pixel We can keep the Red fixed while moving the Blue to a new placement. This allows us to see how complex structures-like prime numbers or intricate knots-are actually built from multiple “colors” sharing a single origin.-This analogy was created in collaboration with an AI assistant.

So for points, the two items would be in the same position but there would be another way of distinguishing them.

In the case of two ordinary points we would have two of the same item, leading to the same item.

In order to have the two different items together we have to be able to remove the concept of a point as the only item of no extent. It requires the construction of an overlying space of places of places where points can be, coexisting with the space of points.

I’m deleting the concept of a point as the only item of no extent in geometry. As well, I can delete it physically as I now have an overlying level.

This then allows the creation of new entities of no extent.

In particular, we can think of removing a point from space, necessitating an overlying, co-existing plane of new places of original places, by extending the concept of a place or a point, into a plane. This also gives room for a new entity ‘e’.

We can create another new entity called e, which can move in this new dimension making it different from p which can still be fixed in this new overlying, co-existing dimension. This keeps the connection with the geometry which already exists.

This creates a mixed space of e and p in an overlying co-existing space of r.

We can think of e’s as having the ability to move, unchanging. An analogy is that of a jigsaw puzzle of a landscape being taken apart. The e’s can be thought of as pieces of the puzzle, moving but unchanging.

Here is then another dimension where e can move off into making it different from p as required. See the diagram below:

Let e be such an item and let e share the space of no extent with a point, p. That is, instead of coincidence let there be this other way of existing called sharing (sharing position). This is possible due to the nature of items of no extent. Two items of no extent can be placed together and we can have a resulting new item of no extent. Additionally an item of no extent can contain other items of no extent, creating a leveled structure. We would need to remove thie idea of the point  as the only item of no extent. This opens up a new dimension that e can be in. E’s moving in r-the new dimension can be thought of as a jigsaw puzzle of a landscape being taken apart. The e’s can move apart in r while the p’s can stay fixed in r. Both could be removed.

In coincidence the two items are in the same location so it is defined as being the same item. But in sharing the two-ness of the two items is maintained even though the items are in the same location. They are two because they are different in some other way. Then coincidence is defined for two points, since points are fixed, but sharing is defined for other entities. These other entities can move in a new dimension which we could call new places of original, lower places opened up by the removal of a point from the overlying level, necessary to have another entity of no extent which can move in it (e). 

E has to be a different geometric entity to no extent. It can exist sharing, internally, multiply. For example two times, like e(1)*e(2). E(1) and e(2) are different. For it is not a point which we could say exists in coincidence with itself as if for example two lines were crossing and one point from each line would combine to a single point. 

We have to remove a point p, in order for e to appear. This necessitates an overlying, co-existing space of new locations of original locations. Then e or its parts can move in this dimension which co-exists with the usual location dimension. The parts can have new locations of their original location, which makes them different from each other and different from p.

Since in mathematics we wish to have this concept of no parts or no extent, so too can we have this further notion. The further notion is that two items could be together as one, if they both had no extent. They would have to be two different items to no extent. But how do we number these? We can think of removing the number one and replacing it with 1(1) and 1(2). Similar to removing a point to make room for e.

Then the two items touch in their entirety both being of no extent. But they do not combine being different entities.

They could not both be points as we know them now, as they would just become one point as Aristotle thought. Aristotle thought that two points could not be contiguous since there would have to be no line in between them and we would have no extent.-Aristotle : Physics- “as there are an infinite number of points between two selected points”. The idea is that the two points would combine into one. They would touch in their entirety.

The new entity e(1)*e(2)  has a location but e(1) and e(2) can also have new locations of their initial locations, if they move in the new dimension of new locations of original locations opened up by the creation of the new level. E(1) can be fixed for now, but could move, so its new location of its original location is the same as its initial location. This is the difference between e(1) and e(2). This also makes it different from a point which we can say still has its location only. It is fixed in r. Then I have this new combination and have a new, extended geometry with this new element  e(1)*e(2) and the old idea of a point, p. Even now we can have e singular as e(1) as e(1) is seen to have both location and new location of original location making it different from p(1) which has location only.          

This finds application in the theory of knots:

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Reference:

Aristotle. Aristotle’s Physics Books 1&2. Oxford: Clarendon P,,

So the new entity e can be made different from p by allowing it to move in this new dimension of location of original locations. So that e not only has location but also can have new locations of its original location.

The two items would be in some way different as we want two there, but in some way the same as these are at the same place. So these two are equivalent but not identical.

It would be like being next to each other, as we have two here, but unlike being next to each other since these both are in one location. The two items would have to be different enough so that they would not combine.

The two points would have to touch in their entirety.

Yet what if we didn’t have two points, but two different geometric entities of no extent?

Then we have to take out the idea that a point is the only item of no extent. We switch the point with this new idea of a point and an e together.

Suppose this is the case then. Then the two new items must be different so that they don’t combine into one.

Because we want to keep the notion of an item of no extent we have to accept that two different items of no extent can be together since they can take the space of one point. We can remove the concept of a point as the only item of no extent.

Then remove the point as the idea of the only item of no extent.

P is fixed as usual. E is different from p in that it can move, unchanging in an extent of p’s to share with different p’s, since it has a location already.

Unlike a p moving in an extent of p’s which is constantly changing with changing position, since p has position only.

E has a new location of its original location away from its original position

Also we can have an extent of e’s to go along with the p’s so can have a sharing like e(1)*p(2)*e(2).

E has multiple new locations of its original location where it could be. Each p has one location only.

E can be different from p as e has the extent of p it can move in. Before we only had p alone so a moving p could only be in coincidence with a p in the plane of p’s. E can move unchanged in a plane of p’s or in a combined plane of e’s and p’s.

Now, we have in the same location two different entities. How do we number these?

It is not the number 2, as we know it, since the two entities are in the same position. Since we have concept shared a point so too can we concept share the concept of a number. So I can take out the number one and  label the entities 1(1) and 1(2). The next level of numbers is the new number of different numbers. This can be 2 instead of 1. So I may have the new numbers 1(1) and 1(2) representing the new entities. The two new numbers are sharing the concept of the number 1.

There could be at least two different geometric entities of no parts. For then these two could be together and still be two, hidden as one, since this would still have no extent. We can remove a point, in so doing replace it with this sharing and discover how the two new items are different.

If we want the notion of an object of no extent we could have other objects of no extent as well, since two could be hidden as one. The two entities would have to be different enough so that they would not combine.

Because there is an entity of no extent, a point, and we base geometry on this, there might be other entities of no extent. We could have a non-combined entity of no extent and have another geometry, which would fit and extend the geometry which is already there. This is because we are still keeping to the items to no extent as a basis. We would just need to make the other items different.

The two items could be two different items of no parts, if the two items were different entities. That way we could not conclude that the combination was not a point or the other entity but we would have to leave it as these two, together, since now we have two entities of no extent.

E’s and p’s don’t combine. E’s share the concept of no extent with p’s. E’s are also shared with different e’s. So e’s have to share with other e’s so they can all be sharing a single location. P’s are still at the level of places and e’s can move, this is what makes e’s different from p’s. 

The new space is a space of possible new locations of existing locations a next level to location. Locations can have new locations.

This is possible since locations are zero-dimensional and could fit into different locations of locations, which would again be zero-dimensional.

We can keep both of these ideas if two points together are defined to be one point, yet e(the new entity) and p placed together do not combine.

Since we want to keep this concept of no extent, or no parts it must also be possible to have two together and still have two, as long as the two parts are different enough so that they do not combine into one. That is, since we want to keep this notion of an entity with no extent and since two could be together and still be two if they were different entities, or different individual entities.

Yet let’s keep the math we already have just add a new item to the concept of “no extent”. That way the usual idea of two points together being one, still is valid, just create another item for the other case. In the original case the two items lead to an item of no extent which we say is the same as the original two. In the new case there are two items together which together have no extent, but they do not combine, being different entities.

Each e can be considered an origin and can move along the extent of e which is defined as being with the extent of p.

Yet we want this concept of point removal and sharing (the point is removed and the two new items are sharing the notion or concept of an object of no extent) to join up with the knowledge that is already in existence.

In doing this we have to add to and change the mathematics which already exists. This turns out not to destroy but heal mathematics, as this can be seen as something which is basic, but is missing. The math from this leads to a way to solve many old problems which are easy to state but previously hard to solve, such as:

The knot problem:https://calctutor.ca/category/mathematics/knots-mathematics/the-knottedness-and-chirality-of-the-trefoil/

The twin prime conjecture:https://calctutor.ca/category/mathematics/the-twin-prime-conjecture/

The Goldbach conjecture:https://calctutor.ca/category/mathematics/goldbachs-conjecture/

Fermat’s last theorem;https://calctutor.ca/category/mathematics/a-clearer-and-simpler-demonstration-of-fermats-last-theorem-wiles-theorem/

The Poincare conjecture:https://calctutor.ca/category/mathematics/the-poincare-conjecture/

The Riemann Hypothesis:https://calctutor.ca/category/mathematics/the-riemann-hypothesis/

The Collatz conjecture:https://calctutor.ca/category/mathematics/the-collatz-conjecture/

In fact this idea can complete mathematics:

The completion of mathematics:https://calctutor.ca/category/mathematics/the-completion-of-mathematics/

Definition and description of e:

When two points come together or start together, it seems as if there could be two there as 0+0=0.(two items of no extent could still combine to no extent). Only that points have location only, and having them together means we have one location so we have to conclude that there is one point there.

What if an object of no extent could be expressed as two different items of no extent, starting together. Since an item of no extent together with another different item of no extent would still have no extent, yet there could still be two items here and not one. The other item of no extent would have to have something more than location (it would have to be different from a point).

Yet since it is logical that two items of no extent could be together and still be two items, if they were two different entities, this must be mathematically possible, somehow. It would work if the two items were not both geometric points, in the sense that they were not the same type of entity. For points are defined to have location only and here we are at the same location.

Call this new indivisible item “e”. Then this together with a point can be called e*p. We can separate e and p (not divide as this is a separation not a division) if we move the original e along an extent made up of p’s or e’s. The e extent is different from the p extent in that it is a series of positions of the original e position. That is it is the next level of position.

Then we have to have an object of no extent which is somehow different from the usual conception. I am thinking of putting two items of zero size together. One can think of putting a dot on top or beside a dot which is there already. One cannot visualize two items of no extent being together, but one can also not visualize an item of no extent as well.

Yet they are an e( new entity) and a p at the same place, if we have a preexisting space made up of ordinary points (p’s).

In terms of symbols, one may write pop=p as the idea that for an ordinary point two points starting together or being brought in coincidence form again an ordinary point. O is the idea of coincidence.

Then e would be something different. E then cannot be in coincidence with p, if we redefine coincidence as the starting together or coming together of two or more points. so we invent a way for the entities to be together and call it sharing, E*p is e sharing with p . Sharing is a way for two items to come together or be defined together and not combine. This should be possible as seen in the analogy of the overlapping shadows.

This must exist somehow in mathematics, since we must have the notion of something with no parts or no extent and we should be somehow able to put two objects together and still have two. So we have p and e as different entities which do not combine. 

Then we can see that e can be different from p, as in an extended space of e’s, I could move an e to another new place of the original place of e, along the e continuum. The e continuum can coexist with the p continuum.

So e is another type of point. It is able to be with another entity which has no extent and not be equal to that entity. P doesn’t share with p, as this is already seen as coincidence. Since points have location only this is the same location and so the same point.

Looking at e, we can’t have e(1)oe(1)=e(1) as then e=p. But possible is e(1)*e(2), if we have an extent of e outwards from p(1). e(2) is some e on the e extent outwards from p(1). This is what makes e different from p, with p we only have pop=p. That means we can have a shifting movement of one e along another continuum of e’s and p’s. Then e’s can have a new location of the original location of an e which makes e’s different from p’s, which have location and the underlying space only.

e(1)*p(1) is e and p sharing a location. We can separate a copy of e(1) away, since 0-0=0 and we have two extents. Think of a jigsaw puzzle of a landscape being taken apart. There might also be an extent of p, along with the e, In which case we can have e(1)*e(2)*p(2).

This is how e is different from p.

To be complete…=p(1)op(1)op(1)op(1) =p(1)op(1)op(1)=p(1)op(1)=p(1), and also… e(1)*e(2)*e(3)*e(4) is not equal to e(1)*e(2)*e(3) is not equal to e(1)*e(2) is not equal to a single e .Also e(1)*e(2) is possible.. That is, e or multiple e’s can travel along an extent of e’s and p’s.

These would not be points, then, as points have location only. Two moving points could come together to form one point. In Physics or mathematics if we have a plane of points(fixed) there can be a point moving in this plane which takes up the locations of these planar points as it moves, and then we have pop=p as it moves.

But also e’s can move as well and we could have two e’s come together to form e*e when the initial location is moved to the extent of e’s.

Two little nothings still add up to nothing, yet there can be two little nothings there. The two items would just be hidden as one. Let’s hide!-they say. Who can see us? The two items would not be points, for points have a singularity to them. That is, when I combine two moving points, in the usual geometry, it leads to one point, but this doesn’t have to be so with another possible entity. 

These two items could be multiple. This is how we can hide! In order to do this we would have to take out the usual concept of a point as being the only entity with no extent and replace it with these new conceptions as other entities which can have no extent. There are these little entities that don’t combine to form a point. This is because a point is already there as the only idea of no extent. We need some room!

If you accept the notion of an entity with no extent you have to accept this new possibility as well. If you want a point, you have to have us too! The new entities say! The notion of no extent leads naturally to concept sharing! The concept of no extent is an example of a concept.

To remove the concept of a point as the only item of no extent, we need to have a concept space, consisting of a concept of multiplicity. This must exist because I must have this further concept of a doubled item of no extent somewhere.

Extension to other concepts:

Furthermore, all math concepts are point-like in that they are exact, universal ideas which have no existence in physical reality. They are mental constructions which are not available to the senses. They are in thought only.

We can replace e and p, as two items sharing the concept of no extent with two items sharing the concept of a number as well. Or the concept of a set, or group, etc.

Math concepts are universal so that they don’t change from person to person or over time or space. A number, point, function or group, etc. is unchanging, eternal, unalterable.

So also they all can be multiple as the basic ideas of math are all based on geometry and numbers. Functions map inputs to outputs based on formulas which are algebraic expressions of variables(numbers) to points on a graph. Groups are collections of the rotations or flips of geometric objects. Elements of groups are exact in the end numerical or geometric. So numbers, sets, groups, functions, etc. can all have concept spaces!

The idea is to extend the concept using the idea of the concept and the extender “of”. So for example; location of location, number of numbers.

The idea is to go backwards into the idea.

Look at the example of location. For a new location of an initial location we need an extended location, that is there must be an extended location, somewhere to put one of the entities, the extended entity.

Then the extended entity has the location of an initial location, which makes it different from a point, having only location.

The concept sharing of a number:

We can start with a line of p’s with two lines of e’s sharing locations. All in a plane of e’s as shown below:

The numbers 1(3), 1(1) and 1(2) can be associated as shown, an e is removed and replaced with an e*e and we can associate the new numbers 1(1) and 1(2), concept sharing with the number 1(3). The number of numbers is 3 and not 1. We can then unfold the two lines of e’s to make an axis where we can have the numbers 1(1) and 1(2). The two numbers 1(1) and 1(2) are sharing the concept of 1. We have the usual number line on the midline of the new plane.

With the Collatz conjecture, we can think of a set of partial sharing numbers, The first ordinary number being an input and the second ordinary number being an output. Then the output of one partially sharing number is the input of the next.

So for example we can create a set such as (10(5), (5(16), (16(8), (8(4), (4(2), (2(1). The rules (if even divide by two, if odd multiply by 3 and add 1) are applied to the input ordinary number to create the output ordinary number.

These can be thought of as existing in the plane of shared numbers as described in the link. We can say that order matters so that (10(5) is not equal to (5(10). Starting with 10 dots and sharing 5 is not considered the same as starting with 5 dots and adding 10.

Then consider that we can show that the distance between each partially shared number is zero, so that they are all equal.

If we look at a set of numbers taken from two neighbors such as { (5(16), (16(8) } we can extend this set to a set of four numbers like so { (5(16), (16(8) (8(16) (16(5) } if we use the property of partially shared numbers for example that (16(8)=(8(16) and (5(16)=(16(5) I can fold over the last two numbers into the first two numbers. Then we can also fold over 5(16) into (16(8) as well as we have the concept of sharing numbers.

But then we can see (5(16)=(16(8), as well as all the other equalities, as all these ordinary numbers are sharing together.

The other thing to realize is that these partially sharing numbers are rules and the rules are partially sharing numbers. So that all rules must be represented by partially sharing numbers. Which means all ordinary starting numbers with associated ordinary output numbers are represented and are all equal. Since One set leads to the loop (4(2), (2(1), (1(4), they all do.

In the framework, the reason every number eventually leads back to the main trunk is a combination of concept sharing and the structural nature of the equations engineered.

Here’s how these work together to ensure no number is left floating alone.

The Collatz tree is defined by two primary equations that represent the “mapping” and “growth” of every number in existence.

My framework defines the entire set of positive integers through the union of these two functions:

Mapping equation: C(x,0) =3x+1

The equation describes how a new child branch attaches to an existing parent branch. It maps odd numbers(x) into their position on the tree.

Branch growth equation: C(x,n)=x*2^n

This describes the infinite extent of a branch. Every branch starts with an odd number(x) and doubles indefinitely as n increases from o to infinity.

The sharing process acts as a logical fold that forces connection. Because I define the distance between shared pairs like (x(3x+1) or (x(x/2) as zero I am saying that every number is “welded” to it’s successor in the higher dimension place of places.

If every step has zero distance then the entire chain-no matter how long-is effectively a single point. Since the 1-2-4 loop is the only stable “place” where these shared concepts can rest, all other shared chains are pulled into it like a magnet.

While sharing provides the connection, the equations provide the direction.

C(x,n)=x*2^n (the branch) this ensures every number belongs to a specific “growth line”.

C(x,0)=3x+1 (the bridge). This is the mechanism that moves a number from it’s current branch to a different branch.

Standard math worries about a sequence that might go to infinity or get stuck in a separate loop. The framework addresses this through concept removal.

By removing the concept of a point as a fixed, isolated island, I make it impossible for a number to exist outside the engineered scaffolding.

Since the place of places is built first as a unified container, there is no “room” for a second , disconnected tree to exist, it must be a part of the single shared structure I’ve constructed.

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